Mike Lesser

(“Outsider In” show; broadcast Sunday 19th July 2011 17:00 GMT 104.4fm in London, and at www.resonancefm.fm)

If you are interested in the counter culture of the sixties, publications such as International Times, philosophy, physics and mathematics you may well have heard of Mike Lesser. Mike died on 1st July 2015 suddenly and all too soon, which seemed to typify his unpredictable and uncompromising way.

Those who knew him will miss him dearly and I offer my deep condolences to all his family and friends. The funeral will be today at 12:45 Friday at Golders Green Cemetery.

I heard of Mike quite late on and when I heard his description I wasted no time, rang him and was well over an hour on the phone with him. He agreed to recording our conversation for Outsider In and the original broadcast went out in May 2011. I met him a couple of times afterwards, he was interested in making things as I am, as well as painting, mathematics and political activism.

I took him to London Hackspace where I laser cut some plastic templates to spray political messages he wanted for the demonstrations that went on in 2011. He was well known among groups like UK uncut and the like and was greatly loved and respected by them.

His house in North London was filled with his and others art on the top floor, one piece he created included a human glass eye embedded in the canvas with characters from Greek mythology. A well equipped workshop on the top floor, including milling machine and lathe, there was no limits to what Mike could do. He collaborated with Dr Dinah Murray on research into Autism producing many papers. He was critical of people’s tendency to attempt to model reality, however paradoxically you will find in his paper, he co-wrote with Dr Murray,  “A Model of The Interest System” in which he used a differential equations to describe in three dimensions the mapping of a cognitive map space with the addition of perception and cognition, in which the brain is modelled as a dynamic, noisy far from equilibrium network.

Mike described himself as a philosopher, Mathematician and computer expert. He not only worked at Goddard Space centre for NASA but also co-founded International Times which was a forceful influence on the counter-culture of the sixties and early seventies; a peer with the late Hoppy Hopkinson and Heathcote Williams, truly a man with diverse interests.

We recorded our conversation during one Saturday afternoon in his fascinating and untidy study, Mike passing an old briar pipe filled with grass back and forth, we both demolished a few beers as well.

Mike was a Zen Buddhist, his chair in his bedroom faced the wall.
The Buddha said of death:
Life is a journey.
Death is a return to earth.
The universe is like an inn.
The passing years are like dust.
Regard this phantom world As a star at dawn, a bubble in a stream, a flash of lightning in a summer cloud,A flickering lamp.
A phantom.
And a dream.

Apologies for the sound quality, I only had one microphone and should have done a better job technically that day… but I hope you find our talk interesting.

Mike Lesser and Dr. Dinah Murray’s website

Memoriam at International Time Website

Mike Lesser – In Memoriam

Excellent paper “A Model Of The Interest System”

International Times

International Times Home Page

P.Allen & M.Lesser (1991) Evolutionary Theories of Economic Change, pp. 160-172. Harwood Academic Publishers. Ed. P. P. Saviotti & J. Metcalfe. ISBN 3-7186-5078-9
D. Murray et al. (May 200), “Attention, monotropism and the diagnostic criteria for Autism”, The International Journal Of Research and Practice: Autism Vol 9, No 2, pp. 139-157.
Dazed and Confused, December 2009, Karley Sciortino, “Anti-Authoritarian Mike Lesser on His Life of Anarchy”, London.
In Conversation With A Dying Friend by Heathcote Williams


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R Stevie Moore


The last time I saw R Stevie Moore was in September 2007. After many emails and phone calls, getting lost on my cumbersome police motorcycle on the highways of New Jersey, I arrived 4 hours late but was still given a warm welcome – we chatted into the evening, Kris, his partner made me some dinner and Steve and I unfurled our sleeping kit and lay on the studio floor together as he told me he snored and we would sleep in the studio so Krys would not be disturbed. A CD was produced which played on repeat all night – white noise – it was the only way I can get to sleep – Stevie said.

Late 2010, Steve left Bloomfield New Jersey, his home with Krys for 30 or so years and found his way back to Nashville – the town he grew up in. This time, he was homeless. This was to be a blessing, or so it seems. He re-made and made friends eventually being approached by John Demiglio, a film maker who suggested a documentary on Steve, on one condition; that he would organise a world tour for Steve, along with the Band Tropical Ooze.

Earlier this year, I heard of the plans for the world tour as the money to do the project was raised on line through Kickstarter.com. I got in touch with Mr. Moore and he agreed to meet up in London. I was very fortunate as the itinerary for the tour left us very little elbow room. At 2.15 the tour van rolled up on the last day of the European leg of the tour in Borough High St and we recorded this special edition of Outsider In before they rushed over to do a sound check at the Lexington in Islington.

I put Stevie and the band up in my house (luckily nearby) after the gig. We all had breakfast together – Stevie seemed tired and withdrawn; I guess he was saving his energy for the stage – and it was a superb gig he played the night before. I gave them a hug and waved them off as they went to fly back to the USA to do a final West Coast tour which should prove to be amazing – Ariel Pink is going to play live with Stevie and that is really something to look forward to.